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		<title>By: Why are Thai men not interested in foreign women? &#124; Spirit of Thailand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why are Thai men not interested in foreign women? &#124; Spirit of Thailand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 18:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://shamakern.com/thailands-foreigner-phobia/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Isabella, ultimately we are much more one than different, and if we could all think along those lines, nobody would even notice all those differences very much, at least not in any negative sense. Just like you I have lived in many countries and I always see that people are not really so different on the inside once you get past cultural conditioning and communication difficulties. 

By the way, in 10 years in Thailand I have so far not ever felt discriminated against although I am sure it can happen here and anywhere. And I agree with you, Thailand is by no means a bastion of discrimination compared with many other places and situations on this planet. Thanks for your input.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Isabella, ultimately we are much more one than different, and if we could all think along those lines, nobody would even notice all those differences very much, at least not in any negative sense. Just like you I have lived in many countries and I always see that people are not really so different on the inside once you get past cultural conditioning and communication difficulties. </p>
<p>By the way, in 10 years in Thailand I have so far not ever felt discriminated against although I am sure it can happen here and anywhere. And I agree with you, Thailand is by no means a bastion of discrimination compared with many other places and situations on this planet. Thanks for your input.</p>
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		<title>By: Isabella</title>
		<link>http://shamakern.com/thailands-foreigner-phobia/comment-page-1/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>Isabella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Shama.. more on this as you made my left brain go back to all my years of working in cross-cultural context in more than 30 countries. To add spice to the discussion, as well as to relate to what i sometimes read on the Bangkok Post Forum about &#039;Farangs&#039; feeling discriminated against.. for all sorts of reasons.. the point is: if one feels discriminated against or has comments about being a farang in Thailand, either because of non-connectiveness with Thai and or because of feeling aggravated by potential &#039;robbery&#039; from thai women they should think of what the african-american, couloured and all the non caucasian, and arabic descent do experience in Europe or US or elsewhere.

My own daughter who is of mixed descent from the West Indies is telling how in thailand she is looked at with either admiration or curiosity.... not to mention the questions I too have to answer as per her origins.... and she is only 7 yrs old and people almost laugh at her sight sometimes in the BTS or the MRT. Laugh with a sense of leasure of course. but still to make her feel unconfortable. Her difference is the focus. Woaw.... so many categories... when actually we are all one!

keep up the good intentions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Shama.. more on this as you made my left brain go back to all my years of working in cross-cultural context in more than 30 countries. To add spice to the discussion, as well as to relate to what i sometimes read on the Bangkok Post Forum about &#8216;Farangs&#8217; feeling discriminated against.. for all sorts of reasons.. the point is: if one feels discriminated against or has comments about being a farang in Thailand, either because of non-connectiveness with Thai and or because of feeling aggravated by potential &#8216;robbery&#8217; from thai women they should think of what the african-american, couloured and all the non caucasian, and arabic descent do experience in Europe or US or elsewhere.</p>
<p>My own daughter who is of mixed descent from the West Indies is telling how in thailand she is looked at with either admiration or curiosity&#8230;. not to mention the questions I too have to answer as per her origins&#8230;. and she is only 7 yrs old and people almost laugh at her sight sometimes in the BTS or the MRT. Laugh with a sense of leasure of course. but still to make her feel unconfortable. Her difference is the focus. Woaw&#8230;. so many categories&#8230; when actually we are all one!</p>
<p>keep up the good intentions.</p>
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		<title>By: Silky</title>
		<link>http://shamakern.com/thailands-foreigner-phobia/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Silky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Living in Thailand for many years I can very much relate to what you&#039;ve described, Shama, and I as well share most of your 
experiences.  

I&#039;d like to add that if we are aware that our understanding about different cultures and behaviors is very limited and biased 
by our own personal history, conditioning and view of the world, living in Thailand with its unique culture (and that would 
be true for any other country, too) is a fascinating journey. It provides us with endless opportunities to review carefully 
our opinions and life models which we&#039;ve built throughout our life.   
It can be a challenge at times, as we all know, and your experiences described in your article give a little taste of it. Nonetheless it is always an invitation to embrace all those people of different cultures and backgrounds, no matter how foreign their behaviors seem to us - we may or may not understand. We all share this journey to eventually open our heart and mind. 
What a great opportunity for each of us, especially us who live abroad.
Thanks for posting your articles, Shama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Living in Thailand for many years I can very much relate to what you&#8217;ve described, Shama, and I as well share most of your<br />
experiences.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to add that if we are aware that our understanding about different cultures and behaviors is very limited and biased<br />
by our own personal history, conditioning and view of the world, living in Thailand with its unique culture (and that would<br />
be true for any other country, too) is a fascinating journey. It provides us with endless opportunities to review carefully<br />
our opinions and life models which we&#8217;ve built throughout our life.<br />
It can be a challenge at times, as we all know, and your experiences described in your article give a little taste of it. Nonetheless it is always an invitation to embrace all those people of different cultures and backgrounds, no matter how foreign their behaviors seem to us &#8211; we may or may not understand. We all share this journey to eventually open our heart and mind.<br />
What a great opportunity for each of us, especially us who live abroad.<br />
Thanks for posting your articles, Shama.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Isabella, you are making some very good points: &quot;no expectations&quot; and &quot;dropping the ego&quot; are certainly great prescriptions for a better experience in Thailand. I also totally agree with you that in spite of any cultural issues Thailand is a very pleasant place to live. All your comments have inspired me to write a new post about relationships in Thailand. Thanks for all your contributions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Isabella, you are making some very good points: &#8220;no expectations&#8221; and &#8220;dropping the ego&#8221; are certainly great prescriptions for a better experience in Thailand. I also totally agree with you that in spite of any cultural issues Thailand is a very pleasant place to live. All your comments have inspired me to write a new post about relationships in Thailand. Thanks for all your contributions.</p>
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		<title>By: Isabella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isabella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Shama it is true. since esterday I keep thinking at what you wrote... and was wanting to write this for a while. I visit 2 embassies in Bangkok regulalry for proceudres issues and every time in both of them the major business of the day, is marriage.

I can&#039;t though agree with the statement that thai women only look for foreigners but for sure the label of Thailand as the land of the smiles for men is real. 

In Africa there also are women on the look out for foreign men for many reasons, but there also are foreign women with local men. Which is here in thailand still a very rare commodity. 

There are many aspects of Thai society which are very pleasant and the rest is only culture which needs to grow and change and it will becuse allthese little kids born out of mied relationships will make it for them. The key is yes humbleness and NO expectations.

Racial relations are very sensitive anywhere in the world. Drop the ego and all is solved easily. That is the lesson for the Asian society thailand is part of... Good to have you here Shama...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Shama it is true. since esterday I keep thinking at what you wrote&#8230; and was wanting to write this for a while. I visit 2 embassies in Bangkok regulalry for proceudres issues and every time in both of them the major business of the day, is marriage.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t though agree with the statement that thai women only look for foreigners but for sure the label of Thailand as the land of the smiles for men is real. </p>
<p>In Africa there also are women on the look out for foreign men for many reasons, but there also are foreign women with local men. Which is here in thailand still a very rare commodity. </p>
<p>There are many aspects of Thai society which are very pleasant and the rest is only culture which needs to grow and change and it will becuse allthese little kids born out of mied relationships will make it for them. The key is yes humbleness and NO expectations.</p>
<p>Racial relations are very sensitive anywhere in the world. Drop the ego and all is solved easily. That is the lesson for the Asian society thailand is part of&#8230; Good to have you here Shama&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been coming to Thailand for over ten years and been living here for about two years, on a non-full time basis. I think, in general, most of what you wrote is right on. As you mentioned, there are always going to be exceptions. I have personally experienced much of what you have described. I think this piece is well written and is in-line with your stated intention.
I don&#039;t believe that any short-term visitor and many long-term expats will ever acquire an accurate understanding of the Thai culture. All cultures are deep and the Thai culture is no different. If one desires to understand more about it, I would offer these suggestions: express interest, be extremely patient and humble, empathize and learn the Thai language.
Thanks for the service you provide, Shama</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been coming to Thailand for over ten years and been living here for about two years, on a non-full time basis. I think, in general, most of what you wrote is right on. As you mentioned, there are always going to be exceptions. I have personally experienced much of what you have described. I think this piece is well written and is in-line with your stated intention.<br />
I don&#8217;t believe that any short-term visitor and many long-term expats will ever acquire an accurate understanding of the Thai culture. All cultures are deep and the Thai culture is no different. If one desires to understand more about it, I would offer these suggestions: express interest, be extremely patient and humble, empathize and learn the Thai language.<br />
Thanks for the service you provide, Shama</p>
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		<title>By: Isabella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isabella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a book providing all resources on how to retire in thailand. It is writtenby a men and a woman. I rarely have seen a book with such blatant gender-unsensitiveness as that one. there simply are no examples of if a foreign woman marries a thai man... All examples all procedures are just for men... the trick in this situation is obviously to focus only on what you want to get yor own reality as a mirror  of clean, nice, thoughts. 

It is very common for foreign women to label foreign men in thailand as in search of a thai heart.... It is so much of a stereotype confirmed by evidence. It is very nice to meet foreign men who spend time with thai women and are still able to communicate with non thai women. 
Oh well the world is changing transition will hit thailand as well. No exceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a book providing all resources on how to retire in thailand. It is writtenby a men and a woman. I rarely have seen a book with such blatant gender-unsensitiveness as that one. there simply are no examples of if a foreign woman marries a thai man&#8230; All examples all procedures are just for men&#8230; the trick in this situation is obviously to focus only on what you want to get yor own reality as a mirror  of clean, nice, thoughts. </p>
<p>It is very common for foreign women to label foreign men in thailand as in search of a thai heart&#8230;. It is so much of a stereotype confirmed by evidence. It is very nice to meet foreign men who spend time with thai women and are still able to communicate with non thai women.<br />
Oh well the world is changing transition will hit thailand as well. No exceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Isabella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isabella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thak you Shama for this simple and brief experience of your living in Thailand and interacting with Thais.

As living in Bangkok for a year now, and having visited Thailand many times since the first time I ever came in 1981, but also as comparing with the other 35 coutries i lived and worked, I can say easily that thailand is a cool place to be, and for sure a different place to experience as a tourist.  &#039;Thai-ness is not to experience it is not a shared value. Hence all our experiences in thailand are different and women maybe more than men. Woman smiling down the Soi will get smiles from other women walking down the Soi. Asian men do not look at women. A totally different experience than walkng down the &quot;piazza&#039; in Rome or Athens. There is shyness it is true but in far too many cases shyness has become an excuse for  non -committing or not-intereacting. I see in Bangkok 9 men over 10 walking with Thai women. I see thai women smiling at foreigners and I ponder... What type of future is in store... Twenty five years ago it was like this, the present seem unchanged... Thai women do not give citizenship, Thai men married with thai women have to show up at police station even after 20years of marriage or proof by DNA test that these childrens are theirs. I find this a bit surrealistic but the stories I hear are fascinating. 
It happens that one my daughter&#039;s friend is a girl aged 8 years old whose mother is UK and the father originally from Koh Chang. It took me 5 years of knowing them to get to have a conversation with him and even teach him how to move around Bkk and avoid traffic!. I guess this is one of kind exception.

Please also read a post on my blog where I relate of a synchronicity which occured to me 2 weeks ago at a local starbucks outlet in a mall in Bangkok! http://thehealingmudras.blogspot.com/2009/11/synchronicity-at-work-at-starbucks.html

I do hope this is GOOD omen for the future of Thailand because the world is changing all  around so better open than closed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thak you Shama for this simple and brief experience of your living in Thailand and interacting with Thais.</p>
<p>As living in Bangkok for a year now, and having visited Thailand many times since the first time I ever came in 1981, but also as comparing with the other 35 coutries i lived and worked, I can say easily that thailand is a cool place to be, and for sure a different place to experience as a tourist.  &#8216;Thai-ness is not to experience it is not a shared value. Hence all our experiences in thailand are different and women maybe more than men. Woman smiling down the Soi will get smiles from other women walking down the Soi. Asian men do not look at women. A totally different experience than walkng down the &#8220;piazza&#8217; in Rome or Athens. There is shyness it is true but in far too many cases shyness has become an excuse for  non -committing or not-intereacting. I see in Bangkok 9 men over 10 walking with Thai women. I see thai women smiling at foreigners and I ponder&#8230; What type of future is in store&#8230; Twenty five years ago it was like this, the present seem unchanged&#8230; Thai women do not give citizenship, Thai men married with thai women have to show up at police station even after 20years of marriage or proof by DNA test that these childrens are theirs. I find this a bit surrealistic but the stories I hear are fascinating.<br />
It happens that one my daughter&#8217;s friend is a girl aged 8 years old whose mother is UK and the father originally from Koh Chang. It took me 5 years of knowing them to get to have a conversation with him and even teach him how to move around Bkk and avoid traffic!. I guess this is one of kind exception.</p>
<p>Please also read a post on my blog where I relate of a synchronicity which occured to me 2 weeks ago at a local starbucks outlet in a mall in Bangkok! <a href="http://thehealingmudras.blogspot.com/2009/11/synchronicity-at-work-at-starbucks.html" rel="nofollow">http://thehealingmudras.blogspot.com/2009/11/synchronicity-at-work-at-starbucks.html</a></p>
<p>I do hope this is GOOD omen for the future of Thailand because the world is changing all  around so better open than closed!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been in Thailand for just less than 3 years and my experience is basically the same as you describe.  I think it&#039;s not so much an issue of cultural aversion but simply one of shyness.  Mostly regarding poor English ability.  As noted in the previous comment, those Thai people with higher education and presumably better English skills seem more likely to establish relationships with foreigners.  That appears true for both men and women.  Also I think the curiosity about other places is increased when the person has more education.  Thanks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been in Thailand for just less than 3 years and my experience is basically the same as you describe.  I think it&#8217;s not so much an issue of cultural aversion but simply one of shyness.  Mostly regarding poor English ability.  As noted in the previous comment, those Thai people with higher education and presumably better English skills seem more likely to establish relationships with foreigners.  That appears true for both men and women.  Also I think the curiosity about other places is increased when the person has more education.  Thanks&#8230;</p>
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